Complaints Against Estie Sawyer

Moreno Valley, CA 92556-0206
or Moreno Lakes, CA
P.O. Box 9908

Itweety78@aol.com, tweety78@aol.com, itweetybird78@aol.com
eBay ID: tweety78

May 1, 2005
Message from Mediator, Pat
Estie Sawyer has filed for bankruptcy. All correspondence should be handled through her attorney:

Dale Parham,
4371 Latham St, Ste 105
Riverside, CA 92501
(951) 686-7717

If you have questions about the complaint,
please contact the person who filed it.


September 18, 2002
Complaint filed by: dragonlady574@hotmail.com

I would really appreciate your help in settling this matter as I just seem to keep getting the runaround from the E-Bay seller, tweety 78. I have asked multiple times for a refund for an auction that ended back in February and in May. Originally I purchased 2 Wales beanies  in a presale and she was unable to get them. It was then said that I could either have a refund or order different bears, I suggested a few that she did not have on hand and she mentioned that she had a presell on the Prinz von Gold beanies, if I wanted I could bid on them and just pay her any extra that they may cost(foolish I realize, but I did this, that is why there are 2 seperate Paypal payments). I never did get the beanies so I started asking for my refund in July and even though she was answering my emails -10 days after I asked for my refund she told me that she had shipped them. I never got them. Now she is saying that she has shipped a second time and she will be out money if she ships a 3rd time? At this point I am very upset as I feel that I am the only one out money, I did pay for insurance and since they did not show up she should have claimed it. I asked for her not to ship a second time to please refund and now today she is saying (this is how I understand it to be) that she will be out alot of money if she has to ship a 3rd time. If she had just refunded my money the first time I asked for it we would not have this problem. I also do not understand how she could be out any money when I paid for insurance. Included are copies of all the emails that I had saved if you read through them (sorry there are so many) you will understand what I am saying. I am unsure of what to do from here as I am not sure if this qualifies as fraud (since she does say that they are mailed) or if I am to presume that she is lying or just a very big misunderstanding. She has over 10000 positive feedback on E-bay and it seems ridiculous to try to save $108.95 by this method. Is there anything that you can do to help me, please let me know, thanks Nora (user id on E-Bay dragonlady574, not sure if you   require this information.I thought that the whole idea of insurance was that if it did get lost the Post Office would reimburse you for the amount. So far, from what I understand from her she has mailed them twice and if she mails it again she will be out alot of money. She charges everyone from Canada $4.00 for insurance and it is mandatory if you pay by paypal. When I asked for proof of mailing I never received a reply until one week later and I was told that she had been away from home because her sister had lost a baby, The seller id on E-bay is tweety78. I do not have an address for her as E-Bay will not give the information as it says that the item is no longer on file since too much time has passed. Her name is Estie and I believe that her husband's name is Rob. I do know that they are located in California. Anything else that I may have forgotten please let me know . Thanks for your help, Nora

From: Itweety78@aol.com
To: dragonlady574@hotmail.com ("Nora Stringovits")
Subject: Re: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1701560001
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 05:23:04 -0400

Hi Nora  The problem is that I do not have Scotland or Graf in stock either , the 3 that you want Wales Scotland Graf and Frieherr are very very hard for me to get.  I am happy to give you a complete refund or if you want to wait a bit I may be able to get some of these in for you  Let me know as I try hard to make sure everyone is happy Your Friend Estie

No problem, stie, I shall still wait. I have left feedback for you though for that auction as you can only do it for 90 days and I think that is up tomorrow. Bye for now, I shall email you in about 2 weeks unless I hear from  you first. Nora

Hi Estie, I paid for it on Feb, 10/02 ID#5J2926717C387661C. Please let me know that you can find this in your records. Once you know the balance I will send you a money order for the balance as I do have US money sitting here and atleast that way I will not have the exchange rate to deal with again. Thanks and bye for now, Nora

From: Itweety78@aol.com
To: dragonlady574@hotmail.com ("Nora Stringovits")
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1701560001 Now#1732085543
Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 01:27:22 -0400

Hi Nora This is what I see on Paypal from you in the past 4 months From winner of 6 auctions

Note: As per your email Estie I am including $15.20 for shipping and $4.00 for  insurance. The auctions won were 1697740876-Sequola(2), 1697741099-March(2), 1697741627-Frisbee(2), 1697741798-Tracks(2),  1697926442-Vanda(2), and 1698161045-SakuraII(2). To confirm my shipping address I will send it with this and by email. Thanks Nora Nora Stringovits

But I do not see payment for Wales??? Was that sent via paypal , let me know so I can figure out the total for Prinz for you Your Friend Estie

Hi Estie. I included this information for you again, I haven't made an additional payment for Prinz yet as you were going to get back to me on a balance owed. If this helps at all For the Wales beanie the auction was $35.05 for each and $4.00 for paypal and $6.95 for shipping. Since the Prinz von Gold was $49.00-difference of $13.95 per beanie times 2 = $27.90. I get that it will be a difference of $27.90 if you could verify this for me please. I realize that since you sell so much that it can be harder for you to find things that go back 3 1/2 months. I don't know what other information that you need please let me know. Thanks Nora

Hi Estie, I paid for it(Wales) on Feb, 10/02 Paypal ID#5J2926717C387661C. Please let me know that you can find this in your records. Once you know the balance I will send you a money order for the balance as I do have US money sitting here and atleast that way I will not have the exchange rate to deal with again. Thanks and bye for now, Nora

Hi Estie, I appreciate the fact that you have left me positive feedback. I would like to know when you will be able to refund my money and by what method you will use. PLMK and thanks again. I did pay $49.00 for each (2) and $6.95 for shipping and the $4.00 for using PayPal from Canada(total-$108.95), part of this was originally for Wales and part was from when I made an additional payment after winning the auction for Prinz von Gold. Thanks ever so much Estie, I have left positive feedback for you and I look forward to dealing with you again. Bye for now, Nora

From: Itweety78@aol.com
To: dragonlady574@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #1732085543
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 05:46:01 -0400

Hi Nora I show you ordered 2 Wales Bears, I can either send you now 2 Wales Bears in hand, or if you want will be getting in Prinz Bears in a week or less and can send you those instead of Wales Let me know as I do try hard to make sure everyone is happy and do appreciate how long you have waited Your Friend   Estie

Hi Nora I am trying to figure out your paypal payments and what I owe you? I show one for $224.00 back in Feb.? Is that the one I owe you for Wales Bears? and then another one for Prinz for only $27 in May but I show the auction sold for $49? Help me out so I can understand why you paid only $27 and what I owe you still, I am so confused now? Your Friend Estie

Hi Estie, On Feb 10th reference #5J2926717C3876613 I paid for auction #1701560001-Wales $70.10+$6.95+$4.00 for a total of $80.10. On May 28th reference #71V90719224974918, I paid an additional $27.90 to bring it up to the proper total for Prinz, a total of $108.95. The first was paid through my husband's PayPal account tj91256@hotmail.com and the second was paid through my PayPal account dragonlady574@hotmail.com . Please let me know how you plan on refunding it. I hope that this helps Estie. Thanks again, Nora

Hi Estie, I have to admit I am very disappointed. When I cancelled the order 12 days ago I explained that it had partially paid through my husband's paypal (Wales) and the balance had been paid through my paypal. I have already arranged to get the beanies from elsewhere by a trade. I feel as if you delayed refunding me my money until you received the beanies and then shipped to me. I am very disappointed with this customer service. Nora

From: Itweety78@aol.com
To: dragonlady574@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: MY REFUND PLEASE RESPOND
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2002 03:31:01 -0400

Hi Nora   Now I know why I had such a hard time finding the payments, I did not know it was paid through 2 paypal accounts  I actually have 2 Prinz Bears en route to you now, let me know as soon as  they arrive Your Friend Estie  Sorry about the mixup, I was going crazy trying to find the payments ?

Hi Estie, During the month since I cancelled my order and asked for a refund, you then shipped 2 weeks later on July 29th. To this day I still have not received anything-no beanies, or no refund. Please let me know what can be done as I did originally pay for insurance and for over US$109.00 I figure that I should have received something at this point. Please help  straighten this out. Nora

Hi Estie, Have you been able to find anything out as they still have not arrived here. PLMK, thanks Nora

From: Itweety78@aol.com
To: dragonlady574@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ??????????????Item #1701560001 Now#1732085543
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 03:24:56 -0400

Hi Nora  I was out of town for about a week and just getting to my emails I am very very surprised you did not receive the 2 beanies I sent you over 2 weeks ago as it should only take about 7 or so days to get to you I am going to try to track this tomorrow through the postmaster and see if he can check status Estie

Hi Estie, I would rather have my money back as that is what I asked for 7 weeks ago. PLMK, thanks Nora

From: Itweety78@aol.com
To: dragonlady574@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: ??????????????Item #1701560001 Now#1732085543
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 04:17:59 -0400

Hi Nora  I sent this very very long ago and am surprised you do not have them yet, I will try my best to have the post office track them down , if not I guess I will ship out 2 more, my gosh normally the transactions go so easily and you have ordered so many times.Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong and will try my hardest to make this up to you Your Friend Estie

Hi Estie, I still have not received anything. I originally asked for a refund on July 20th, it will be 8 weeks ago friday that I asked for the refund. Could I please get a refund as this is ridiculous to wait 2 months for a refund when the auction ended the last week of May. Nora

Hi Nora

I am very very surprised that you do not have your 2 Baers as they were sent well over a month ago to you, I will have to pull your order to see the exact date and go over your address and make sure it was sent to the correct address.When I sent the Bears I did not know you wanted a refund? it was only after I sent them that you asked for one, this was for 2 bears that you ordered from along time ago  Estie

Hi Nora When you sent me this email I had allready shipped out your items both of  them I tried very hard to make sure you were happy when you did not get the 2 bears a long time ago and now if they dont come I will be out quite a bit of money  andmay have to send them again This is the hardest transaction of all time and you have ordered so many  timesfrom me, I do appreciate it, but I did send out both of your bears and before you asked me for a refund, otherwise I would have been happy to give it to you Your Friend  Estie


September 23, 2002
Response filed by: Itweety78@aol.com

I am warning you 1st of all that if my name appears just becuase of some nutcase complaining without any merit no matter how much money it takes I will sue your website and have it removed plus sue for damages Trust me when I say I am not kidding ! Now to you question She paid for the auction back in Feb. I was not able to get her what she wanted so she said send me 2 of another Bear so I said fine She originally ordered 2 Wales Bears and said it is o.k. send me 2 Prinz Bears, so I did Then she asked for a refund after the Prinz Bears were sent. I send her package long long ago but it is impossible to track since it went to Canada. She did not insure the package and I gave her a choice back in February to Isuure it and she declined. I will not be held responsible for a package to another Country where the buyer choose not to buy the Insurance when it was offered and furthermore cant be traced without it. I am a very honest seller on Ebay and have over 17,000 Positive feedbacks with less than 17 overall negative comments, my repuation speaks for itself. I have tried many time with numerous emails to this person , and have told them their package was mailed long long ago. they said they insured it, I have proof they never paid for Insurance. She is only sending you the emails she wants you to read it is comletely crazy, I will not put up with a buyer like this, I have finally removed her and will not let her bid on my auctions again through ebay Futhermore, it took her over 4 months to send me a payment for 6 beanies a year ago and I never even turned her in for bad bidder or non paying bidder She is so unorganized that she probably received my package long ago and never even realized it was from me if not I cant be held responsible for a buyer that opts not to take the Insurance when offered  Estie Tweety78 on Ebay   Estie


September 23, 2002
Cautionlist asked for the proof that she had that Nora had refused insurance. Also asked for proof that Estie had indeed sent any of the packages to Nora. I gave her my mailing address for her to mail proof. Or she could have scanned it and sent. I told her that I had to know when she was to fax me anything so that I could turn on my fax machine to get it. She has provided me with no proof of anything at all. Also in all of the emails between the two of them Nora many times mentions that she paid for the insurance and Estie never says that she did not. It is never mentioned by Estie. She does mention having the post office track package. I wonder how she was going to do this if package was not insured.
September 25, 2002
Update filed by: dragonlady574@hotmail.com

I was wondering what was going on when I didn't here from her. Below this email you will see the proof from Paypal that insurance was paid for originally when I paid for Wales. When I paid the extra for Prinz von Gold I did mention that I had already paid for the shipping and insurance when I paid for Wales. I thought that she was so very nice and now she is lying, that is wrong. . The information below is copied and pasted from Paypal and if she checked the transaction date in her paypal account she would have seen the exact same information. If you check through the copies of email that was sent to you previously you can see that I have quoted both the date and transaction number of this Paypal payment to her. Now I am really upset since this is a blatant lie. PLMK what you can do about this. Thanks Nora

Transaction Details

Auction Payment Sent (ID #5J2926717C387661C)

Name:  estie sawyer (The recipient of this payment is Verified)

Email:  itweety78@aol.com

Amount:  -81.05

Winning Bid: 70.10

Shipping:  6.95

Insurance:  4.00

Item Number:  1701560001

Auction Site:  eBay

Your Auction User ID:  dragonlady574

Auction Close Date:  Feb 8, 2002

Auction Title: Winner of Auction-Wales From dragonlady574

Date: Feb 10, 2002

Time: 20:14:02

Status: Completed

Subject:

Winner of Auction-Wales From dragonlady574

Note:

Hi Estie, I won another of your dutch auctions. Item #1701560001-Wales. As per your previous email I am including $6.95 for shipping and $4.00 for insurance.To confirm my shipping address is: Nora Stringovits 15804 112 St Edmonton AB Canada T5X 4Y3 Thanks Nora email dragonlady574@hotmail.com

Shipping Address

(Status: Unconfirmed)

15804 112 St.

Edmonton, Alberta T5X 4Y3

Canada


September 25, 2002
Response filed by: Itweety78@aol.com

I am glad you have Lawyers on board because you may need to use them with me I am not saying that your website is not legal but am saying that it is not waranted to put my name on there just because of a complaint from someone that is totally baseless and false My feedback reputation speaks for iteself I did not call her a nutcase to her face or in an email, I told you that I thought she was a nutcase, if you think that is unprofesional that is your opinion There are many other choice words I could use but declined to lower myself to her level. She was offered Insurance, and I do not charge Canadians $4 for Insurance and say that it is a must, that would be Illegal according to Ebay rules. Insurance was offered to her and she declined to accept it. I do not print out every single correspondance from her or anyone else as we had an understanding and there was no problem unti lyou wrote me. When she did write me I tried to write her back within 24 hours or most of the time within a couple of yours. She is only sending you the emails she wishes to send to you, I am sure she is not sending ones that show I said when I mailed her items and that over and over again I stated you did not pay for insurance. I have been very consistant with her. She bought these items in Feb, then wanted to change the 2 items because I could not get them so I sent her the 2 items long ago. I do not deliver the mail, it is out of my hands once I give it to the post office  Since of Feb Transaction and probably over 50 emails back and forth she has left me many many positive feedbacks for other items in 3 of the 7 Months since Feb. She is not being totally honest with you , that is all that I can say  Estie


September 26, 2002
Response filed by: Itweety78

Hello again. I am reading your email again. I did tell Nora she did not pay for Insuance several times, she is only sending you the emails she chooses too, not every single one I have sent her that is very obvious. That is simply crazy that I charge sellers to Canada $4 to buy Insurance ,if you read any of the ads and I believe you can go back at least 3 months you will not see on there that there is any extra charge for Canadian users unless they would like to add Insurance . On all of my emails and clearly stated in my ads it says Inusurance is optional at $1.10 . If I am such a bad seller why is she buying form me over and over again ? I have asked you this now twice. I have not heard a reply from you? also this transaction originally was in Feb , like I stated before I sent her order out long ago, I have never stolen money from anyone especially someone who has ordered many times over and over and am not about to start now with this small order. Between the order in Feb and now she has left me feedbacks in each of 3 Months of the 7. I would be more than happy to send you proof of mailing this item to Nora but you have not given me a fax number to send it to you or an address to mail it to?. I also would love to take on your company in a court case to teach you a lesson, this is truly harrassing and it is amazing that you just take the side of a buyer and believe every word she has told you. I have a reputation that I have worked very hard to achieve on over 4 years on Ebay alone and will not allow this buyer or your company to bully me


Cautionlist: Note that I have sent my mailing address to her. she also could scan any proof that she has. I have again told her that I would need to know when she was going to send me fax for me to turn my fax on to receive it.
October 4, 2002
 She has not replied to my proof sent to her about Nora paying for the insurance.
October 04, 2001 ( old complaint found about Estie - Itweety78@aol.com
Complaint filed by: tommy612@msn.com

On August 16, 2001 I won 2 trades on ebay from
tweety78@aol.com,
Estie Sawyer
P.O. Box 206,
Moreno Valley, CA 92556-0206.
The total of both bids including shipping and handling was $93.51. The bids read that the bears would be delivered within 30 days. After the WTC disaster she wrote to say they would be delayed but if I wanted my money back she would refund it. As it had already been over a month, I asked that she refund my money via email on 9/19. She emailed back that she would send it out on 9/20. On 9/22 I received another email from her saying she was going to mail it out that day. I in turned emailed her "What's going on, you said you would mail it 9/20." From then on she went crazy sending me many hateful emails, telling me I was nuts, crazy, on drugs, a liar. She now says I have the money and I am trying to scam her. Almost 2 weeks after she said she sent the money I still do not have it. She finally said she sent a money order. Money orders can be traced but she keeps telling me I have the money and that I am sick. Well, I'm sick all right. I'm sick and tired of being scammed by these creeps over ebay. This is my fourth bad encounter bidding on beanie babies. So far I have recovered 3 scams. I have 2 more to go. I have contacted her local police department as someone else told me that's what I should do. They were of no help, they said I had to contact my local police dept. I've yet to do that, but what can they do as I am in Illinois? Please HELP!!! Cindy Thomson

Itweety78@aol.com
To: pedger10@coredcs.com
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:21 AM
Subject: Re: Problem Transaction

Cindy asked for a refund and I sent it to her 3 days later via money order on September 22nd 2001, she is trying to scam me by saying she did not receive it and you too. I have sold over 20,000 items on Ebay with over 12,000 + Positive feedbacks and with the 2 Cindy left makes only 9 Negaives comments total !  Have been on Ebay for over 3 1/2 years and have never stolen money from anyone,  If I am put on any bad trader list I will 100% file charges against both your company and Cindy, I dont care if you have a disclaimer on there or not, This is not a threat it is a guarantee and Promise I will do everything in my power and that includes all and any legal action ! I will not be slandered in any way either by your company or by her.  It is almost laughable that a bidder can write to you and say I ripped her off when I know she received the payment back ! Do you believe anyone and everyone who writes you a letter??  Please look at my feedback , my username is Tweety78 on Ebay and you decide who is telling the truth. You will NOT find one person in all of the 3 1/ 2 years that has ever said I stole money from them and this kind of email that you sent me makes me sick  I have worked very hard to acheieve a 99.999999999 percent feedback record , probably the highest positive feedback to negative comment ratio in all of ebay and I will not be slandered by Cindy or your company. Go ahead and review my feedback record and you will see I consider this matter closed and do not want or need any more threats from your company.  I will be checking any and all bad trader lists and will hold YOU Pat personally responable if my names appears on any of them for this claim that is invalid and false    Estie

(Cautionlist asked Estie for copy of the money order receipt that she says she mailed to Cindy and also asked her for copy of what she got when she traced the money order)

Itweety78@aol.com
To: pedger10@coredcs.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: Problem Transaction

I received your email asking for a request of the money order and proof that she cashed it but it takes more than 2 working days to get this information. Here is what I am going to , I will send Cindy a Personal check for the full amount again on Tuesday Oct. 9th, if I find out that she has cashed the money order and also cashing my personal check , I am going after her 100% for fraud! and no amount of money or any amount of paperwork I have to do will stop me. You may want to convey this to Cindy.  And I will stop at nothing to make sure charges are brought against her. I believe she has cashed the money order but cant proove it right now as of this date but I mailed it to her on Sept. 22nd which was quite some time ago. I will not be taken by any scam artist and my feedback on Ebay speaks for itself !  I honestly think she is trying to scam me into me paying for this payment back twice but in time I will know if she really did not receive the payment I sent back on the 22nd of Sept. or if she has cashed the money order.  I think in time we will both know if we were sucked in to a scam by Cindy !  Sincerely    Estie

Itweety78@aol.com
To: pedger10@coredcs.com
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Problem Transaction

Send Cindy another payment back ( personal check ) on Weds Oct 10th, I sure hope she did not cash the other money order I sent out Sept 22nd , I will be very upset   Sincerely    Estie Tweety78 on Ebay

Itweety78@aol.com
To: pedger10@coredcs.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: Problem Transaction

Have put a trace on the money order today, and also did not quite make it to the post office today, her new payment will be coming via Personal check on Weds 10th instead of the 9th   Sincerely    Estie Tweety78

From: tommy612@msn.com
To: pedger10@coredcs.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Problem Transaction

I'd contact Ms. Sawyer myself but I've been instructed by the Lisle Police Department not to have further contact with her. First of all, I do not know what bank she is dealing with her area, but she should be able to find out with one phone call if the money order has been cashed, not 2 working days. She should have the issuing bank provide her with a copy of the cancelled item. If the item has not been cashed she should get an affidavit from them stating the money order has been lost, I would then give her a written statement that I have not received it which she could attach to the affidavit and get her money back. The Burden of Proof lies with the Purchaser. I, personally, would not issue additional monies unless I recouped the money that I originally sent out. The fact that she would send more money without going through with this procedure indicates to me she is what I have stated all along...a liar and a scam artist. I will notify the Lisle Police to see if they think I should proceed with filing criminal charges or wait to see if she sends the money out "again". I will keep you posted.   Thanks again for your help.  Cindy Thomson

"Cindy Thomson" tommy612@msn.com
To: <pedger10@coredcs.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:22 PM

Just a note to thank you for all your efforts in getting my money back from Estie Sawyer. As 10 days have past the check she sent me was not stopped so I consider this matter closed.  Thanks again for all your help.  Cindy Thomson


October 10, 2002
Response filed by: Itweety78

Of course I have proof I mailed out her package, I dont have proof she has received it in hand Please email me back the message or email that I sent you saying I don not have proof I mailed it to her? Also I have asked you several times to be able to fax you the Post Office Receipt and you said you would have to turn your fax on but you have not given me the phone #, I have asked you several times now     Estie


October 10, 2002
Cautionlist: I have asked Estie many times to mail me copy of her proof that she had sent out the package as she says she has proof. I have also asked her for the proof she says she has that insurance was offered and refused on this package even tho proof that insurance was paid for is posted here and given to Estie. I have told Estie that I have to know the exact time of fax coming in as I have to turn on my fax machine because since I hve cable modem I only have one phone line now so the phone has to be turned off when the fax is turned on. We are not ever online at the same time. I have sent her my mailing address to mail me the proof. She has not done this either. ALso a year ago the same type of complaint was made about Estie to traderlist. She told the same story that she had proof etc and was asked to send it but never did. She finally made good and that is why she was not placed on bad traders list then. But this is same type of problem again and she has not made good nor will provide her proof by mail or scan.
October 15, 2002
Response filed by: Itweety78

I never disputed that she paid me, that was for 2 Graf Bears bought in Feb, she asked me to send her 2 Prinz Bears instead because I told her I could not get her the 2 originala Bears so that is what I sent her  That is what I sent her  Look here is what I am going to do , I am going to send out another 2 Prinz Bears, I feel as though enough time has passed that she should have received them long long ago, if she received them then she will have to live with herself and the bull she has put me through here She has not exactly been honest with you this whole time, she is only sending you the emails she wants you to see but not the ones asking for payment over and over again on some other transactions, dont forget there are many Months in there where she posted positive feedback or feedbacks for me for other items she has received and it is many of those items she was very slow about paying for but I did not turn her for non paying bidder, I trusted she would send payment and finally did  Once I send them out again I will forward you an email with the details or if you would send me your fax # will be happy to send you a fax of it   Estie


November 11, 2002
Cautionlist emailed Estie  on October 5 that beanies were not wanted now as she had gotten them elsewhere after all of this time and that refund was wanted. No reply was received so she was placed on bad traders list and notified of this on Nov. 12, 2002.
November 11, 2002
Update filed by: dragonlady574@hotmail.com

just wanted to let you know that as of today, November 11th, I have not heard anything from her, nor I have I received any money or beanies. Basically she is telling you one thing ( she will replace them) and then she is just ignoring everything after that. Nora


November 12, 2002
Response filed by:   Itweety78

Yes, I see that I have been added to your list. That is o.k. I have proof like I said that I have sent this buyer her order and right now am currently working with an attorney to sue your Company for Malice and Damages you have caused.to my good name  At this point just taking me off the list when all is said and done will not be enough.   I am leaving the rest up to him to take care of     Estie


November 12, 2002
Cautionlist has emailed Estie that if her lawyer needs to know the info for our lawyer for the site so that he could contact him would be glad to give him this info.
November 12, 2002
Response filed by:  Itweety78

He has everything he needs to take care of this for me, I am sure of it I am truly confident we will come up on top here and I have allready told him 2 weeks ago it is not enough to just have my name removed from your list


December 7, 2003
Complaint filed by: LawBaby@peoplepc.com

On Nov 16, 2003 I won a TY Herrod Stardust Bear from this seller and that same day (as I always do when I win an auction) I used Ebays checkout system to let this seller know I would be sending payment right away. I had checked Traderlist board earlier before I even thought about bidding on this item as I always do because of the many bad sellers on Ebay to see if there had been any complaints about this person. When I checked the board there wasnt a complaint but when I went back to check it I seen there was, in fact, a complaint on this seller and then seen they had a bad trader page. I read the page and thought, there was NO way I was oging to send money to this person until I emailed her asking if she would let me pay for this bear when she got them in hand seeing as she did have a page on Traderlist. She then sent me a reply trying to explain away those complaints and the page they have here, which also included a threat to report me as a non paying bidder if I didnt have payment to them in 7 days. I then sent them another email stating that I wasnt going to send payment and chance being one to loose money to them like others had since they didnt want to work with me and told her that if she was as reputable as she says she wouldnt had minded me sending payment when they received the bear in hand. Keep in mind she never said in the first two emails she sent me that she even had any of them in hand. Not until the third email did she say that had I just went ahead and sent payment like I was supposed to, I wouldve been one of the first to get one because they had some over 60 hand at that time, and said had I been even 1% nice I wouldve gotten one of those. SURE!!! and I have 1,000 acre gold mine in the Sahara I can sell you..I wasnt nice? I ASKED her if I could send payment, I didnt TELL her I WOULDNT send..So why couldnt she had told me she had some in hand when I asked if I could send payment when she had some in hand in my FIRST email to her with concerns of this? Anyway, I now have a non paying bidder strike against me because this seller is greeeeeeedy and dimisses the trader page she has on her and expects me to do the same. Beware of this seller and read the Traderlist page she has on her. I pay for auctions I bid on, PROMPTLY! Go to Ebay and search under LawBaby32 and you will see this for yourself. This woman claims to be reputable but dont ever tell her you seen her on Traderlist and expect her to care one way or the other. But all is well on this end because I still have my $59.00!......=)...


November 16, 2003
Complaint filed by: boobles54@aol.com

I purchased a presale for a MC Anniversary bear 2nd Edition. I waited for 3 months as she kept telling me it was coming. I finally cancelled the order and asked for a refund. She told me that as soon as some people paid her via Paypal she would send my refund in full. That was over 3 weeks ago, NO REFUND and now won't answer my emails. In the auction it clearly states that after 30 days if you don't receive your item she would give a full refund!! It's not fair that people can just take your money and not deliver or give your money back!!


February 16, 2004
Complaint filed by: ROXJ1952@aol.com

I have a bad deal with Estie Sawyer with an auction I won on June 4th, 2003. It was a presale auction but after 2 months I still had not recieved my 2 sets of Asian Pacifics(6 in a set). I paid for them with paypal on June 4th,2003 also. After the 2 months I started asking about them. I was told they were hard to get and would I mind waiting. After a very long wait I started asking again. On 10/11/2003 I was told she was suprised they had not arrivedsince they had been mailed. She had a # from Endicia that just said they were in route. Estie said they must have been stolen,lost, or something. She would have the postmaster check into. On 11/13/2003 I emailed again asking where are the beanies.I was she emailed them priority mail and the postmaster would check into it. During this time I also had been asking for a refund. No refund. On 11/25/2003 I sent another email asking again but after that I never recieved any emails back. Till this day I cannot get an answer from her. If you can be of any help that would be great. But at least you can warn people about the women.

Her information is: email: itweety78@aol.com Name:Estie Sawyer, from: California

Thank-you,Roxane Marker


April 2, 2004
Comment filed by: dominic4x4@aol.com

Just a warning to Be careful, * * * * NY Bear,ultra rare Beanie over 50 sold on Ebay over last month by this onetrader tweety78.

Each one fetching nearly $200 each.A lot sold by one person considering they are rare ?????


Date: Thursday, August 19, 2004
Time: 5:50 AM EST
Submitted by: Vicki Isborn
Email address: isiv@sbcglobal.net
Remote Addr: 68.122.4.79

Subject: Itweety78@aol.com
traders_name: Estie Sawyer

On May 21, 2004, I won a bid for Ronald McDonald. Pay with Paypal the amount of $204.68. Ms. Sawyer was not able to get these beanie and after 60 days the order was cancelled. Ms.Estie offer to sent my money back on 7/4, 7/12, 7/21 & 7/17. As of today, no refund and all e-mails have stopped as of 7/27.
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August 23, 2004

Mediator, Pat, has received word that the problem has been resolved.


December 4, 2004
Complaint filed by: cja519@hotmail.com

Over the past few years I have had several dealings with Estie Sawyer (ebay ID: tweety78). She is notoriously slow at delivering the goods, but always managed to get them there eventually. In finishing up an eBay auction with her in July of last year (2003), I asked her about the Canadian beanies that were rumored to be coming out (Strong, Free, and North). She emailed me back that she would get me 2 of each of them and to PayPal her $127.65 ($119.70 plus $7.95 S/H). We PayPal'd her $127.65 from my husband's PayPal account on 7/23/2003. I did not hear from her for many weeks and started emailing her about the transaction. She said she could substitute others (Jack and Deutschland) and I agreed to that. I waited and waited and no beanies arrived. I emailed her again and again and again and no responses at all. I phoned her and only get voice mail. I left dozens of messages and she will not return any calls. I complained to PayPal and eBay (even though it was not an eBay transaction), but she is a Power Seller. I have contacted law enforcement, etc. I talked to a detective Onovares in the Moreno Valley Sheriff's Dept and explained it all to her. She said there is not much that I can do unless I want to travel from Maryland to California and take her to court there. She did, however, give me a case number for it. I emailed all of this to Estie several times....still no response at all. This REALLY upsets me, because this was not all my money. I had to refund it to a friend because I felt bad about sending her money to a crook. I have all the emails to and from her, a copy of the PayPal transaction, etc. The personal info I have for her is:

Estie Sawyer, PO Box 9908, Moreno Valley, CA 92552-9908. Phone: (714) 785-3754. Email: itweety78@aol.com


December 31, 2004
Complaint filed by: foosielucy@aol.com

Re: Estie Sawyer, aka itweetybird78@aol.com
Morena Lakes, Ca.

I sent her a money order for 3 presale beanies on Dec 18th through her Ebay listings. They were expensive but decent prices. Had to keep asking about receipt? I have sent out 85 money orders for Ebay purchased and none have ever gone missing. After several attempts to get an answer I rec'd a nasty, verbally abusive phone call from Mr. Sawyer threatening me with non payment. I had already sent them the money order number. I had to hang up the phone and they tried again but I would not answer. They filed against me for non payment and I filed against them for harassment and threats. I have kept a file and it is full of lies and threats and a great deal of nastiness all on their part.

I checked on my money order and it has not been cashed but the beanies have since increased in price. I suspect that when they get a letter with an MO and the value of those beanies increase - how hard is it to say 'you never got it' - only I have been pressing so they are getting back at me with nasty threats of being thrown out of ebay. Yes, they do a lot of selling BUT I WON'T DEAL WITH THEM. These folks can't be trusted and by their language and behavior have proven to be predatory!.

Comments on Ty.com have uncovered some similar behavior that others have experienced with this seller. PS I have 100% + feedback as a purchaser and never have encountered this behavior before and hopefully never again.

It is now costing me 15 dollars to recover my funds (hopefully) which is $97.55 and they have also accused me of being crazy. Oh well whatever floats their boat. Ebay makes money from them so why rock it ---what a shame!



February 14, 2005
Complaint filed by:  hubbard@gls3c.com

Subject: Estie Sawyer
Email Address: tweety78@aol.com, itweety@aol.com

On November 15th I purchased 5 white Starlight beanies from Estie Sawyer. I mailed her a check the next day, and she acknowlged receipt on November 19th. Since that time she has song and danced me very well. I got really upset when I found that she was selling presale Starlight sets on the bay. At that time I asked for a refund, and things went down hill from there. I asked for a refund on February 5th, 7th and 10th. As soon as I started asking for a refund correspondence stopped. Since you only have 90 days to leave negative feedback on ebay, I did that. Of course, she left a very nasty feedback for me.

I have the email addresses of at least two other peope she did the same thing to if you need them.

Her name and address are:

Estie Sawyer
P. O. Box 9908
Moreno Valley, CA 92552-9908

PLEASE HELP!! These ebay sellers are geting away with murder!!

Donna
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Update:

February 27, 2005
Complaint filed by:
hubbard@gls3c.com

Subject: Estie Sawyer
Email:  
tweety78@aol.com, itweety78@aol.com


On November 15th I purchased 5 white Starlight beanies on ebay from Estie Sawyer. I mailed her a check the next day, and she acknowledged receipt of the check on November 19th. There were emails back and forth, and she always said she would be getting them. I left her negative feedback on ebay, and things went down hill from there. I requested a refund of my $241 on February 5th, 7th and 10th. To date I am out $241!!

Estie uses two email address. They are tweety78@aol.com and itweety78@aol.com.

Donna


April 28, 2005
Complaint filed by: cja519@cablespeed.com

I have been complaining about a bogus deal with Estie Sawyer (itweety78@aol.com) for nearly 2 years now. She has avoided every email and telephone call and has been offensive and rude. Today I received a letter from Central District of California Bankruptcy Court. It seems that Ms. Sawyer has chosen to file for bankruptcy and finish the fraud that she started many months ago. I was under the impression that debts made through fraud were exempt from bankruptcy, but evidently she will get away with it...and our money! In case others need the information, Her attorney is:

Dale Parham, 4371 Latham St, Ste 105, Riverside, CA 92501 and the phone number is: (951) 686-7717

Please be advised that all communication MUST now go through her attorney and not be directed to her personally. Thanks for your help.

Carol


April 30, 2005
Update filed by: hubbard@gls3c.com

I don't know if you aware of it, but Estie Sawyer has filed bankruptcy. I received notification today from the Central District of California Bankruptcy Court. I guess I can kiss my $241 good-bye! Thanks for what you tried to do.

Donna



May 1, 2005
Message from Mediator, Pat
Estie Sawyer has filed for bankruptcy. All correspondence should be handled through her attorney:

Dale Parham,
4371 Latham St, Ste 105
Riverside, CA 92501
(951) 686-7717


May 1, 2005
Complaint filed by: Margie Hanopulus
Email:  eatarck@hotmail.com

Subject: Estie Sawyer
Email: itweety78@aol.com
Ebay: tweety 78

Ref: Ebay Auction #595740963 (Ty I love Germany & Friedrich Beanie Babies) dated 2-15-05.

Ref: Ebay seller id tweety78 at itweety78@aol.com
Name: Estie Sawyer

I purchased the above, in an 30 day Ebay presale. She returned my e-mails, in regards to delivery, but said that Ty hadn't released these items, yet. Today I received notice of Chapter 7 Bankruptcy


May 2, 2005
Complaint filed by:
canuckle@telus.net

Subject: Estie Sawyer
Email: itweety78@aol.com

I am just writing to tell you that today I received a letter in the mail from the UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT in the Central District of California.

It seems that Estie Sawyer has filed for Bankruptcy on April 22, 2005.

I was VERY fortunate that Paypal decided in my favour and reversed 2 Paypal payments that I made to Estie Sawyer on March 13th and March 17th for 2 auctions that I never received.

I emailed her numerous times and received no reply so I notified ebay who advised me to file with Paypal.

On April 19 I filed with Paypal and 10 days letter, I got my money back !!!! I am so impressed and so glad that I didn't wait any longer before I filed !!!

Please update her page on the Bad Traderlist !! I know of at least 2 other people who emailed me about the same auction as she has more than one item available. Nobody had received anything and were in the same boat as myself.

Now that she has declared bankruptcy, I hope she has some assets that can be used to pay her creditors !!

Thank you for providing such wonderful service !

Regards,

Adrienne in Vancouver BC CANADA :-)


May 2, 2005
Complaint filed by: nukepom8@nieukirk.org

We went to the Lawyer today and she told me that we maybe not getting refund money back or the beanies???? She will write to letters and the copies of Estie’s auction ebay and my cancel check to mailing to her lawyer to see, what happen? So we planning to go to Riverside, Calif.
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Response from Estie Sawyer:

I understand that you are out money,you are not the only one, I made some deals with UK and German sellers and when they took my money I could not come up with money to complete all of the transactions and had to file bankruptsy

It was not like we were trying to fraud anyone and had to file Bankrupsy and close our business

We had a 99.8% feedback rating for over 7 years on Ebay so had a good track record but like I said I had to close my business and have no assets at all

Estie
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Another Response:

If I can get enough money to get you Hawaii I will, Mum I never had in hand, only Hawaii but will see if I can still get one

I am stil waiting on Mum Bears, I spend over $9000 on ordres overseas and have yet received anything from them, they outright stole from me, I was on Ebay for 7 years and worked very hard and have tried to do things right all the time

Estie
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Also:

You obviously dont know the entire story of why I had to file Bankruptsy or you may be a little compassioniate allthough of course I know you are upset

I was ripped of for over $14.000 by 2 UK and Japan sellers and that pushed me over the edge , sold my car, tried to fill as many orders as possible and had no choice but to file Bankruptsy, I would have loved to stay in business, complete every transaction but I have no assets of any kind and am not in business any longer

If you would like you can contact my Attorney

The phone # is

Dale Parham, 4371 Latham St, Ste 105, Riverside, CA 92501 and the phone number is: (951) 686-7717

Estie


May 3, 2005
Complaint filed by:
tbear47@clover.net

Subject: Estie Sawyer
Email: itweety78@aol.com
Ebay ID: tweety78

I have also been ripped off by tweety78. I paid for 11 beanie bears and only received one of them. She will not answer my emails. I got a letter on 5-29-05 from her attorney in California saying she filed Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. It said not to email her, phone her, or mail her letter about the money she owes me. She owes me $221.35. I have emailed Ebay and PayPal, but go no help because of the time frame. I ordered black and white starlight on 11-12-04. I received the black. but not the white. Her emails to me kept saying they would be shipped soon. On 2-17-05 I ordered the 2 new German bears and the UK Mum,I never received them either. On 2-28-05 I ordered the 6 2005 Asia-Pacific set, never got it.

I went and talked to a FBI in my town today and then he had me file a claim with the IFCC. He is checking with the lawyer and trustee on her bankruptcy case to see what I can do.

My question to you is can you tell buyers that got ripped off by her to file a claim with the IFCC at www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

The more buyers that file a claim the better are chances are to put a stop to her fraud. Then maybe she won't come back in a few months and open a new Ebay store under a new name.

I didn't complain to Ebay or PayPal before because she kept answering my emails that they would be arriving soon. Of course, like a fool, I believed her. I have dealt with her for over 3 years and this is the first time I had a problem. I have probably bought over $1200.00 of beanies from her. I don't know if I can mention her name or not, but it is E.S. from Moreno Valley, Ca. Please tell people to beware!

thanks.

Sharon in Ohio