Complaints Against Karen Reading or David and Katie Smith

Mesa, AZ 85203

kreadingok@yahoo.com

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September 23, 2002
Complaint filed by: irenejones@woh.rr.com

I appreciate your help of any kind! Here is the info of auction:

Item name: '91 Dolls of the World Scottish Barbie 2nd edition.
Ebay auction ended March-04-02
Final price: $19.95 + postage- total $24.95
High bidder User ID: bubbles-ok
High bidder email: kreadingok@yahoo.com
Name: Karen Reading
Notification of payment via PayPal for total amount of $24.95  
March O5-02
PayPal notified that it was an unconfirmed address.  Buyer, Karen Reading stated the doll was a surprise for a friend and asked me to mail to her friends husband.
David Smith
959 E. Fairfield
Mesa, AZ 85203

Barbie doll mailed via Priority Mail with tracking #03010120000332791101  Barbie was delivered to address March 11-02   Email from Karen thanking me for Barbie which was received safely.

Email received from PayPal Sep-10 -02 Informing me that the funds I received on this transaction were taken from an account with reports of fraudulent credit card use. Case# 510986

Email from PayPal Sep-12-02 on Case# 510986 , the amount of the above transaction involving unauthorized funds has been debited from my PayPal account. Amount $24.95 plus $1.02 for chargeback fee.

I emailed Karen Reading Sep-15-02 and asked for payment on Barbie. Email was not returned as undelivered so I assume it went through. No response as of today from k Reading. If I have left anything out please let me know?   Thank you   Irene


September 27, 2002
Update filed by: irenejones@woh.rr.com

Hello Trudy, this is the note I received today from PayPal, thought you would like to see it!   Irene

From: webform@paypal.com
To: "Irene Jones" irenejones@woh.rr.com
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: TransactionInquiry:SpecificTransaction:CC:Other:D:B:N:O:   (KMM22579503V54905L0KM)

Dear Irene,

We have disputed the chargeback on your behalf and must allow the buyers Credit Card Company 45 days to reply to our dispute. Please contact us after 45 days for the outcome of the dispute. Thank you for your patience in advance. Sincerely, PayPal Chargeback Division

This is email that I had sent to them:
message ID: TransactionInquiry:SpecificTransaction:CC:Other:D:B:N:O:
customer message: Transaction ID: '1F9243023T939141K'
Transaction Date: 'Mar 5, 2002'
Transaction Type: 'Payment Received'
Transaction Status: 'Completed'
Transaction Amount: '24.95'

Message: 'I strongly object to being a victim of a six month old charge back and being charged a fee for this. If the credit card was reported stolen or missused I should have been notified no later than thirty days. It should not taken 6 months to report. You would have been notified immediately.Why am I paying for this. The owner of this card would have known after their first statement came in that this was not their bill and should have complained then, not 6 months later. This is not good business on PayPals behalf! Can you share with me what the buyers address is and what date she registered with you. On the complaint ID 510986 Your reason for denying this payment to me was due to the fact that I had not provided a delivery identification when indeed I did. Doll was mailed via Priority mail tracking #03010120000332791101. Package was received on March 11-2002. Yours Sincerely   Irene Jones'   customer subject: Chargeback on auction


September 25, 2002
Update filed by: irenejones@woh.rr.com

Thank you for all your emails. To answer your questions, when a buyer pays by PayPal the address given for shipment should match the address given at time of registration. If the buyer wants it shipped to another address ( work, relative etc) that's when PayPal lets the seller know that it is an unconfirmed address and they do not offer protection for payback on any claims. The seller has the option to refuse shipment that being the case. I unfortunately fell for the story that Karen was buying for a friend who wanted to give it to his wife as a surprise and that it would get to friend quicker if I sent it to him directly. BIG mistake on my part as I now learn.

Yes PayPal did indeed charge me a fee for the chargeback. BAH HUMBUG! I have taken your advice, from earlier email, and sent a strong letter of complaint to PayPal disputing this transaction so long in the works and for charging me the fee. It will take 2-3 days before I get a response from them. I have asked for Karen's address also and the date that she registered with them but I can predict the answer to that, as in, Privacy policy to protect our members. What about my protection from them! I will wait their reply before venturing a phone call to the Smiths.  I have filed a police report, and they did tell me it was a Federal crime but doubted I would hear from any of their detectives in a follow-up since the amount is so small. We shall see! I will keep you posted on any new developments.   Thank you again for all your help and advice.  Irene


October 4, 2002
Cautionlist emailed Karen several times but although email did go through all was ignored. Did find more info on Smiths to whom the package was mailed. They should be able to give more information on Karen if they are not Karen themselves. Have asked Irene to phone them about this.

Smith, David
959 E Fairfield St
Mesa, AZ 85203
480-835-7771

Smith, Katie
959 E Fairfield St
Mesa, AZ 85203
480-835-7771


October 13, 2002
Update filed by:  irenejones@woh.rr.com

I did get in touch with Kate and Bob Smith today . Bob told me that his address was used by his former boss, Brian Bigley. They shared that other than allowing their address to be used for the delivery of the doll, they had nothing to do with the bidding or payment of the doll. I now have a phone number for Brian Bigley and have left a message on his answering machine. David claims he does not know this Karen Reading! I have the feeling I will not get anywhere trying to recover the doll or the money. Perhaps PayPal will be able to get some action from the credit card company.   I have tried several times to contact a Brian Bigley at 480-715-5386 and also 480-715-1059. Messages left have not been returned. David Smith told me that Brian Bigley is the person to whom the Scottish Barbie doll was intended for. Brian Bigley was David Smith's boss and David's address was used to receive the doll in order for Brian Bigley to surprise his wife with the doll. This was the story I got from David Smith. I thought it interesting that one Kathy Smith's comments to me was,"Not that doll again? We have had a lot of calls on that doll!"  Unfortunately, I didn't pick up on that piece of information until I ended the call. I just wonder who all the calls were from? Irene


January 18, 2003
Update filed by:irenejones@woh.rr.com

I thought you would like to know the latest regarding my complaint on Karen Reading or David and Kate Smith. I was contacted recently by a viewer of the traderlist who supplied me with the email address and other information on one, Brian Bigley, the recipient of the Barbie doll in question. After contact with Mr. Bigley, I am happy to inform you, I have been paid in full for this auction.   Thank you for all the advice you gave me.  A special thank-you to my anonymous "Knight in Shining Armour" who came to my aid so gallantly.   I. Jones.