Complaints Against Stormy Loran (?), Sheila Semel, Mae Feitelson
Yonkers, NY 10710
storm123@operamail.com, storm@yifan.net, sheila0112@earthlink.net, MsCapeCod@operamail.com, sheila@bestweb.net, new AStormiC@netscape.net, aStormCloud@go.com, sheila2u@earthlink.net, sheila2u@yahoo.com, *New: astormcloud@go.com, sheila2u@earthlink.net
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September 6, 2001
Complaint filed by: sean@peak34.freeserve.co.uk (Sean Peak)
I have a problem with a Stormy Loran strom@yifan.net. I put a trade up
on KNK trading an Indonesian Pastel Peace and asked for certain Issys in
exchange. I was contacted by this Stormy Loran who offered me a Santa Barbara
Issy which i accepted. I asked for refs from them and they gave me Storm123
on Ebay as there ID. I checked this name out on Ebay and it had 37 positives
so i agreed the trade. I supplied my refs and they agreed to trade. I sent
my Indonesian Peace out on 24 August 2001 to
Stormy Loran
69 Somerset Drive
Yonkers, NY 10710.
I posted it International Recorded Delivery as i now always do on the trades i do. I received a package from Stormy Loran on 1 September 2001. It contained an Issy but not a Santa Barbara Issy but a Mexico City Issy. I immediately emailed this Stormy Loran who emailed me back saying that it must be a joke because they had sent a Santa Barbara Issy and in fact they had not received the Indonesian Peace. Further emails were sent and it soon became appartent that this person was trying to scam me, they wanted their Santa Barbara Issy back.
I put a post up on KNK about this and someone emailed me back to ask whether i had checked this Stormy Lorans email address out on EBAY, i hadnt, i had just checked Storm123. I did check it but it came back the email address wasnt in the database. As a member on Ebay i sent Storm123 a question and they emailed me back saying they didnt know who this Stormy Loran was but they had other people in the past trying to use their references. I emailed this Stormy Loran and pointed this out, they said they could explain it but wouldnt offer an explanation.
I have checked with the British PO today who said the package i sent left this country on 26 August 2001 bound for Kennedy airport. They are sending me a form to request delivery details and who signed for the package. i have had over 100 positives on Ebay and 15+ on KNK and 5+ on CN and various other positive trades with people in the UK and in Japan.
If you decide to look into this i have the receipt for mailing and all
the emails that have passed between me and this Stormy Loran. I personally
dont think that is their real name. I have also emailed the Yonkers Police
Department and have had an email back to say it has been passed to the Detective
Division. Thanks Sean
September 7, 2001
Update filed by: sean@peak34.freeserve.co.uk (Sean Peak)
I tried to get Storm123 details the other day. It wouldnt allow me to have them as i am in the UK and it stated they couldnt release information internationally. I think she sent me an Mexico City Issy, value $9, so she had evidence a package was sent to me then it becomes her word against mine. Santa Barbara Issy is valued at over $100. i do think she set me up
I emailed Stormy Loran yesterday - 6th to tell them i had spoken to the
British PO who had confirmed my package to them had left this country on
the 26th August 2001 and that i was requesting details of when it was delivered.
A few hours later she emailed me back to say 'the ugly Peace beanie' arrived
on Wednesday. 5th. Strange it only arrived after i had emailed her to say
i was checking. Anyway i appreciate your help in this matter.
September 13, 2001
Response filed by: storm@yifan.net
Good Eveningn In reply to your mail regarding my trade with Sean
Penn, I can only tell you that as per our trade agreement I sent Him Santa
Barbara Issy, mint tag protected and smoke and odor free.I have never heard
of such a thing as his continuing accusations, threats and harrassment. I
repled to him over and over in good faith and he continued to badger me with
his e mails, until I advised him that I was blocking his address from my
server. I was beginning to feel threatened by His comments and told him so.I
do not know what more I can tell you re: "my side of the story". I sent him
Santa Barbara Issy as agreed. With due respect I ask you what you would be
putting me on a bad trader list or filing any sort of charges for. Thank
you Storm Loran
September 15, 2001
Response filed by: storm@yifan.net
You think I sent him Mexico City Issy ?? Well, I am sorry to hear you
feel that way but I assure you I sent him Santa Barbara Issy. He sent me
a very ugly "Pastel" Peace beanie which is surely not pastel , although it
is Indonesian. I was out of town at the time, I was called away unexpectedly
, and I took the package with me and mailed it to him from another state.
He chose NOT to believe anything I told him . The peace bear was not received
by me until about a week after he contacted me stating that he had not received
Santa Barbara Issy. Had this not happened, I would surely have complained
to him about the fact that peace is not pastel. I do not know what his problem
is, but I believe ,in our justice system you are innocent until PROVEN guilty
and I take umbridge that you have chosen to get in the middle of a two sided
story and taken sides. Since you obviously are not interested in my side,
which is the truth of the matter, there is no point in my continuing any
dialog with you any more then with Sean Penn. Now you have become a judge
and jury for him ?Once again, I reiterate....I have done nothing wroong,
and nothing illegal....he was sent Santa Barbara Issy as agreed upon and
it is not really my concern as to why he has gotten into all of this. As
far as I am concerned our trade is completed in spite of the fact that neither
of us is happy with the result. I have offered several times to undo this
trade with him returning my Santa Barbara Issy and my returning his Peace
bear. Thank you for your interest.
September 15, 2001
Cautionlist did contact stormy123 and several of the people who had done
business with her. She states that others have emailed her before about problems
they had with someone who gave her ebay id as their feedback. I did verify
that stormy123 was definately not Storm Loran. Storm123 lives in Alabama
not New York. When I Stormy Loran ? with the fact that she had used someone
elses id on ebay for their feedback she started avoiding that and started
to email me about terrorist attack in New York and that there were more important
things than beanies. You can believe nothing someone says that is using
someone elses feedback. !!! That is a lie in itself.
September 18, 2001
Response filed by: storm@yifan.net
It was stupid....not criminal. I had previously made an International trade, which I can document. The trade went bad and the person threatened me.....saying he was visiting the US. I did send him yet another item duplicating the one he had already received and did not want to get into such a situation again.
You know....I think I am going to post on the Internet about your total
lack of patriotism. You are a very fortunate person....to have nothing to
do but harrass me, (etal I presume). Fortunately you are not the final word
in our justice system and I no longer care what you think. I have more important
concerns at this time.For the final time, because I am no longer going to
respond to your insensitive e mail. I sent him Santa Barbara Issy. If you
can prove I did not I will replace it. IT WAS SENT AND RECIVED. PERIOD
Get with the program....there are more important things you could devote
your time to right now then beanies !!!! What is your problem, that is causing
you to insist he is right ?????? You did not see what he received...but I
did see what I mailed him.Do whatever you want, but do not write to me again
unless you intend to offer an apology for your false accusation to
me.
Cautionlist: Here are some of her emails where she is caught lying:
Here are some of her emails where she is caught in a lie:
From: storm@yifan.net
To: "Sean Peak" sean@peak34.freeserve.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: Santa Barbara Issy
Oh yes, you will be able to confirm that the peace bear was picked up on Wednesday September 5th. I do not know when it arrived...I told you I was out of town !!!! Of course you would set up this scam.....now saying you did not receive Santa Barbara Issy so that you are requesting I return your peace. Yeah right.....I do have hundreds of positive references. None that I will supply to you though.....I feel threatened by you, that is why.
Cautionlist: if she had references why did she give someone elses feedback?? Also when told that trace on package he sent would show the date that she got it, she then says she got it the 6th but has no idea how long it had been at post office because she has been out of town . But in earlier email when asked how she knows the Peace has not arrived she says calls home everyday and checks!!! So which was it??
From: storm@yifan.net
To: sean@peak34.freeserve.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:14 AM
Subject: KnK Trade
Hello I would like to offer you my Santa Barbara Issy in trade for your Indonesian Peace beanie bear. Issy is mwmt and smoke free. My references are on ebay , user: storm123 Please let me know if you are interested. Thank you storm (Cautionlist: These references are not hers!!)
From: storm@yifan.net
To: "Sean Peak" sean@peak34.freeserve.co.uk
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:47 AM
Hi I will mail package today. My address:
Stormy Loran
69 Somerset Drive
Yonkers, NY 10710 USA
Pleaswe let me know whe it arrives and I will do the same. Thank you
Storm )Cautionlist:
She did not mail package until Aug. 28-
5 days after she said and never told him this. Could she have waited
until she got his?? )
From: storm@yifan.net
To: "Sean Peak" sean@peak34.freeserve.co.uk
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Santa Barbara Issy
Hi, Oh yes "JERK".......I did say I am out of town. but I did NOT
say my home is shut down....Our telephones connect from state to state and
I do speak to my family several times daily. NO package has arrived there
from you........Storm (Cautionlist:
She talks to her family several times
daily so knows his package is not there but then when he tells her that he
will get the slip that tells when it was received she states she does not
know when it got there but she did not pick up til 5th.
January 18, 2002
Complaint filed by: minnie3393@aol.com
I am currently have big problems trying to resolve a trade with Sheila
Semel, email: sheila0112@earthlink.net.
I am in the UK and she is in the US. Back in November, I traded for her Unopened 4 Clubby 4 kits. I knew that shipping these kits were quite expensive so I took this into account and offered her a bit more for them. I also added another beanie to compensate it even more. Sheila seemed happy with this so we agreed a date to mail the beanies. After a day or two, she wanted to trade for more of her Clubby 4 kits. She offered 8 Clubby 4's for my Twigs buddy, Nectar and Nipponia beanies. We agreed to send on 6th Nov which we both did. When Sheila emailed me that she had mailed the beanies, she also mentioned that the shipping was very expensive so I offered her another Unity beanie which I sent the day after. After about a week, I received the first lot of Clubby 4's and was upset to find that they were NOT unopened as Sheila claimed. So I emailed her telling her how I felt about this and she did not respond very kindly. This is what she replied:
I am sorry you are disappointed. I made a trade with you for UNopened
Clubby kits and as far as I am concerned they were not opened. I did not
open them. I bought them just as they are from a local retail store. There
are complaints all over the trade boards and newsletters that all appear
to have been opened. There are also disclaimers that it may be the type of
tape that Ty has used that makes them look open and crumply when in fact
they are not. I have had 3 dozen clubby kits and every single one looks open
to me. Those that were sent to you came out of a sealed case of twelve so
I doubt even my retailer was the one who opened them. There are comments
posted on both Smartcollecting and MsJanies web sites as well as via their
newsletters.
I will be happy to undo the trade, but I will not absorb the additional postage.
I am sick and tired of these International trades which have become nothing
but trouble.
With this reply, I said it was no problem and that I would take them as they are. So I waited and waited for her 2nd package and after a few weeks I emailed her asking where her package was. She said she would email the receipt but the email did not contain any scans - but I took her word that she had mailed the clubby 4's so did not ask her to email another scan. I left it for another few weeks and during that time I was phoning Parcelforce International regularly to check if the package was with them.
Last week I emailed Sheila telling her that if the package had not arrived by the end of the week, I would like her to return my items. Her reply was very upsetting as this is what she said:
Hi Malina
Well, I am sorry also....BUT, I have been asking a lot of people about this
situation and I do not see how I can just return your trade items and be
out the cost of 8 clubby kits plus shipping. I have already sent you the
receipt to prove I mailed them to you....how can I be certain that you have
not either received them or that they are hung up in customs on your side
? Surely that does not seem like a fair situation to you does it ?
Sheila
So I decided to ask Sheila for the tracking number - I checked on Parcelforce website and it reported that the package was still in transit. So I emailed customer service to enquire the whereabouts of the package. The reply was very upsetting as it said that the package had been returned as they could not deliver it. I have been getting problems with Parcelforce who have not been doing their job - when they are unable to deliver a parcel, they should always leave a card for me to contact them to rearrange a date for redelivery. According to their records, they tried delivering the parcel 3 times - however, I did not receive one single card letting me know this.
With this information, I emailed Sheila to let her know what had happened. I also told her I would be contacting Parcelforce to ask for compensation of having the package returned to me. I asked her what she would like to do about the situation - whether she wanted to return the Clubby 4's when she got them back, or whether she wanted to return my items. She did not respond very well.
She is now very upset as I posted a message on CN message board asking for help with this matter. I did not see any harm in doing this as I was lost what to do when she refused to return my items(this was before I found out that the package had been returned to her). She refuses to answer my emails and prefer to post her replies on the message board. I have apologised for my mistake but the matter seems to have got out of hand.
Sheila Semel
69 Somerset Drive
Yonkers, NY 10710-2011
US
Please can you help us both with this.
February 5, 2002
Complaint filed by: ferdie@usonet.ne.jp
her name and address is mae feitelson,210 longvue terrace,yonkers,new york
10710 and her email is storm123@aol.com
i emailed her agin and she said she havent recieve my beanies but i ask
my local military post office and they said she should have recieve it already.
she said she didnt care what the post office said she hasnt recieve it. but
i think she has. she doesnt seem worried about itor has emailedme and done
any follow ups. i am worried she is scamming me cuz she probably didnt have
the buckingham beanie and buddy to start of and just wanted mine. its been
over a month now . thanx and i appreciate ur help.
My dealings with Sheila were sometime ago. I was contacted by her on a
trade. I sent my portion of the trade to her, but never received her part.
I emailed and she responded that she was ill and she could not believe that
I would keep emailing her. I just posted the bad trade and claimed my losses.
Thank you for your interest. Thanks, Shane Rossman
February 7, 2002
Response filed by: sheila0112@earthlink.net
This Person has added a complaint to a Bad Trader page associated to my
name. I sent her package as and when agreed on. How is it my fault that she
was not home on 3 occasions to accept delivery and the package was supposedly
sent back to me ? To date I have not received it. I had sent her the mailing
receipt weeks before and had she checked on the status with Parcel Force
at that time perhaps she would have been able to retrieve the package before
it was returned to sender or whatever direction it has been headed towards.
I spent $37.00 on postage in addition to the cost of the 8 clubby kits. It
is not my fault they have not reached her.Malina posted to the CN Bad Traders
Board after we had agreed to wait to resolve the issue after the package
arrived back here. I then continued the dialog on that forum instead of directly
with her as she did the same. CN mediator removed all posts and has been
attempting to resolve the issue with us. She has urged patience and Malina
has proceeded to further this by adding it to this board. The board mediators
here have chosen not to contact me and ask my side of the discrepancy before
adding her complaint to the bad trader list. This problem may not be Malina's
fault as it most certainly is not mine, however she fails to allow resolution
by exerting some patience. No where in her post does she quote me or mention
that on several occasions I e mailed her and assured her that if the package
was infact lost I would either replace the items or pay for their value,
but that I would make good on my trade. That was before the lost package
was tracked to her failure to arrange for delivery. Not a fault of mine.I
see nothing fraudulent or illegal about this complaint.
February 7, 2002
Response filed by sheila0112@earthlink.net
Please advise as to how I may post a response to the comments you have posted
regarding my name on the Bad Trader listing. I have written to this board
and to CN and KnK several times recently over trades that have gone bad.
CN has tried to help me but was unable to get a response from the other trader
involved. KnK was unable to help on yet another trade gone bad, but did suspend
the member involved as there were other complaints as well as mine. This
Bad Trader list has been ignoring my complaints. Is there some reason why
you would think that my getting scammed on trades does not count because
these other traders have contacted you first while I thought we were negotiating
and resolving problems.
In the instance of Malina, I was negotiating with her in good faith. I assured her I would either replace the items or pay for the ones I had received from her. I was still being assured by my local Post Office that the package, which was sent surface mail should still arrive. She contacted CN and complained and subsequently found out that the package had been redirected from the U.K back to me as undeliverable. I have not as of this date received that package.
storm123@aol.com is not and never was my e mail address. I do not use AOL service. Somehow this has gotten inadvertantly confused here.
Re: Sean Peak
I DID in fact send him Santa Barbara Issy for his pastel peace in spite of
the fact that you "Scam busters" have chosen to take sides without any proof
as to what was sent or what was received. Why choose to take his word over
mine ?
I have not received a package from Ferdi in Japan.
Why are you not willling to assist me in my trades as well ?
I have filed fraud charges against the 3 involved but have not yet been
contacted.
Can it be that you have reached erroneous conclusions due to the many problems I have been having trading recently and are predjudiced to my side here ? I do in fact have over 100 positive feedback comments on KnK. I have been an honest and reliable trader with the same kind of difficulties that most traders encounter time and again. I would appreciate if my comments can be added as rebuttal to those you have posted on the Bad Trader page.
Thank you.Sheila
February 10, 2002
Response filed by: sheila0112@earthlink.net
Subject: Minnie3393@aol.com
traders_name: Malina Tan
Update to bad trade with Malina Tan. I have finally been able to track this package at the Parcel Force web site.
http://www.parcelforce.com/polling/Tracking.asp
Telephone #01180080888808
This parcel is coming FROM UK ParcelForce Worldwide, as the intended RECIPENT WAS NOT ABLE TO ACCEPT DELIVERY ON 3 SEPARATE OCCASIONS. ParcelForce opted to 'return to sender', after leaving not one notice of the attempted deliveries. That ParcelForce opted to 'return to sender' WITHOUT notifying EITHER party, and through no control NOR fault of yours. That UNTIL it is delivered BACK to you, there is little you can do but wait for the arrival of the package. I have been phoning almost non-stop for several weeks now with no response.I have been sending daily e mail inquirys to which I have received not even one response.Finally just this morning the tracking sight advises me:
Parcel/consignment number: EE125832458GB
Advised and on it's way.
Status : IN TRANSIT
I will continue to monitor the whereabouts of the package until it arrives
back here.
February 7, 2002
Update filed by: ferdie@usonet.ne.jp
im sorry i had to go back and look at the addresses on my sent items it
says storm123@operamail.com not storm123@aol.com - and her name given
was mae feitelson. from new york.
February 14, 2002
Response filed by: Sheila0112@earthlink.net
Complaints Against Sean Peak
Derbyshire UK S41 0BS
sean@peak34.freeserve.co.uk (Sean Peak)
I responded to a trade offer up on KNK trading ,an Indonesian Pastel Peace and asked for certain Issys in exchange. I offered my mwmt Santa Barbara Issy in trade for his Peace. He agreed to the trade and we agreed to a mailing date. I was unexpectedly called out of town on a Family emergency but did bring the package with me and mail it out to him from another state. Apparently delivery of his package was attempted while I was out of town. I found a notice to pick up at the post office a recorded delivery package from England, which I did when I returned home.
Coincidently Sean received my package during this period of time and began to write me that I had sent him a Mexico City Issy beanie in place of the Santa Barbara I had agreed to trade. I did send the Santa Barbara Issy and was wondering what sort of scam I had been caught up in that he would say such a thing. He became very offensive in his e mail responses to me and I notified him that I was blocking all further communications from him. When I did return back home and pick up the package I began to understand. The Peace beanie was not in any way pastel but some muted dark color peace bear that in no way met the value of the mwmt Santa Barbara Issy bear that I had sent to him. I also had no idea that Sean had so many complaints listed on the Bad Traders list which apparently prompted him to jump the gun and complain about me.
I did offer repeatedly to undo the trade he was supposedly so unhappy with. Return my SANTA BARBARA Issy and I would return his Indonesian Peace beanie.
I would appreciate the addition of my comments to Seans Bad Trader Page as well as a rebuttal to his comments posted to me.
Thank you
I did a deal with her a long time ago. She is just another of these people
who are out to do in others.. I have seen a few.. She just never sent her
end of the deal and when she supposedly returned mine she sent a cheap attic
instead of the intl I sent her... bill
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February 27, 2002
Response filed by: shelia@bestweb.net
this is final correspondance with will.sten@lineone.net . who ended up with
15 of my may 1998 retired beanies while I received nothing from him.Would
anyone like to deal with someone such as this ?
Original Message
From: Sheila
To: bra~heart
Date: 20 February 2000 10:28
Subject: Re: James in Scotland
# i As soon as your side of the trade arrives here I will be happy to ship them back to you and undo this trade.
#2...this was an innocent mistake on my part. Perhaps you never got the e mail I am referring to for the same reason that the e mails I sent you both yesterday and today elicited a return Warning: This email could not be delivered for the past 4 hours
#3 you may feel free to post anything you want on any sight. I have hundreds of online references and will respond to yours with my side of the story which is the truth.
#4... .please go right ahead and contact your NY friends... .surely they have nothing else to do but investigate your FALSE claims.
From: braveheart <braveheart©cqm.co.uk>
To: Sheila <sheila@bestweb.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: James in Scotland
KEEP THE BEANIES, YOU VAGRANT. PASS THAT TO YOUR USELESS DAUGHTER IN LONDON
AND SUEALL YOU WANT!
Subject: storm123@operamail.com
traders_name: MAE feitelson
Comments: i have sent this lady my beanies addison,nectar and kyoto and
recieved nothing yet. i dont understand why this lady lies . i want my buckingham
beanie and buddy or send my beanies back. yes i mailed it on dec 18 and i
told u when i did. i emailed you constantly till now and you just ignore
my emails. im out of beanies. you are the one who is doing mail fraud and
that is noit right. it is not appreciated.
Subject: ferdie@USONET.NE.JP
traders_name: Addy
I have NOT received a package from Ferdi.I have responded to every e mail
she has sent me and told her that when I receive her package I will have
to replace the package I sent her which she claims she has not received.
Her package from JAPAN has NOT arrived. yet she continues to insist it has.
Mailing is no assurance that a package has arrived. I mailed hers and she
claims she has not received it as well.
Thank you.
Subject: sheila0112@earthlink.net
traders_name: Sheila Semel
Comments: This is to clarify Sheila's comments. She stated that she offered me a refund if the beanies had been lost - this is incorrect! When I asked her to replace the beanies or return the beanies I sent her, and that she should have had the package insured, she replied:
"Hi Malina
Believe me, I am VERY upset as well. I have gone to the Post office several
times and have been assured that packages of that size rarely if ever get
lost. They continue to insist it is delayed. I understand it has been long,
but as I told you before, there was one other package from the same time
frame delayed and that has safely arrived. I just do not know what to do....but
I do not thnk it would be fair for you to expect me to take that large a
loss when in fact I have sent you proof of mailing. I have also been informed
that International insurance is not worth the paper it is printed on . I
will get back to you.
Sheila"
I expected Sheila to have sent the package by airmail....not surface,
as I have recently discovered. She initially told me she paid nearly $50
for shipping....I now find out it only cost her $29! All I want is the beanies
I have been expecting for the last 4-5 months. If she had emailed me the
reference number right from the start, instead of 15/01/02, and if she had
also informed me that she had sent it by surface, I would not have pestered
her so much and I would have been able to check the status of the package
on Parcelforce website. As a active trader, I know that a package usually
only takes 7-10 days to arrive.
I do not understand why Malina keeps changing the story. The package was returned to me today, clearly marked as: "UNCLAIMED" by Parcel Force. As per the email we exchanged while making this trade she agreed to surface shipping on this package. I had previously sent a package to her for another trade via airmail, at a cost of $50.00 and did not want to do that again. Malina is confusing the two separate trades. I also sent the customs number many weeks before she finally traced it. I have several e mails where she voices her concerns re: customs declarations. Could that be the problem here ? the package is now at the local post office here.
Email exchange 11/01/01 with Malina Tan
"Hi Malina
I could do this trade but am afraid postage will be to high. Would shipping
surface be ok ? Or do you know another alternative.
PLMK....thanks
Sheila
----- Original Message -----
From: Minnie3393@aol.com
To: sheila0112@earthlink.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 2:00 PM
Subject: trade - Clubby 4 kits
Hi,
I am looking for 4 Clubby 4 kits. I have 4 GT Jinglepups to trade. PLMK I
am in the UK with refs in CN and KNK under email address.
Thanks
Malina
February 27, 2002
Response filed by: sheila0112@earthlink.net
Subject: Minnie3393@aol.com
traders_name: Malina Tan
This is the original e mail message sent to Malina where I have offered
compensation to her if the package turned out to be lost.
-------Original Message-------
From: Sheila
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 05:24:38 PM
To: Minnie3393@aol.com
Subject: Re: Fwd: PFW Internet : Internet Feedback
Hi Minnie
OMG....this is horrid, but at least it proves my innocence in the
situation.
No need to apologize for "bugging" me, I certainly understand your concern
and shared it.
I wonder why they did deliver the other package I sent you and could not
deliver this one.
I guess we will have to decide what to do IF or when this package ever arrives
back here.What a mess this turned into on both sides.
The items I traded you for were things I needed for my personal collection.....the clubby kits are obviously greatly devalued by now. I would not even want 8 more !!!!Do you still want them ? This has now cost me $9.99 plus tax for each clubby kit. $30.00 + for shipping. I have never heard anything like this and have no idea where to go with it since the fault does not lie with either of us.
I would not be willling to pay the current secondary market prices
for the items you sent me but might be willing to work out some sort of fair
monetary compensation. I honestly just do not know what to do here......has
such a thing ever happened to you before ?
I have been warned about International trades many times, but have successfully
completed so many that I do not heed the warning.
Please get back to me.
Thank you
Sheila
February 27, 2002
Message submitted by: sheila0112@earthlink.net
Correspondence between Malina and Sheila
-------Original Message-------
From: Sheila
Date: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 06:54:09 PM
To: Minnie3393@aol.com
Subject: Re: trade - Clubby 4 kits
Hi Malina
Yes, I do understand your position and I do appreciate your patience.
The problem to me is the high cost of postage.What will you do when the package
finally arrives as I am sure it will ? I have paid almost $40.oo to ship
that large package. Now there will be additional high costs for me to mail
back yours . Perhaps we can come to some sort of payment arrangement for
your items ? I cannot imagine that the large package is lost. Have you checked
with your local customs office. That is the only other suggestion that the
Post Office has given me for the delay.
Thank you
Sheila
-------Original Message-------
From: Minnie3393@aol.com
Date: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 05:54:09 PM
To: sheila0112@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: trade - Clubby 4 kits
HI Sheila,
Sorry to bother you again but I still have not received the 8 Clubby IV beanies.
If they do not arrive by the end of this week, I will have to ask you to
return my Twigs buddy, Nectar beanie and Nipponia beanie. I hope you have
insured the package as it has been too long already - we traded on the first
week of November, making it nearly 10 weeks of waiting. I hope you understand
the position I am in and will return my beanies and buddy.
Thanks
Malina
January 14, 2003
Complaint filed by: sevenbellesagain@cs.com
I have traded w/ a person named Sheila from yonkers,NY, I traded a Wales
and Cand-e bear for her extra large libearty bear. She agreed and we mailed.
Although I still haven't received her bear. I tried emailing her but her
email bounces back. So I looked on the trader list to see if she had any
other bad trades or email address' and found them. She still has yet to reply
or mail my bear.
January 29, 2003
Complaint filed by: Peg3393@aol.com
I had a trade with someone names Sheila Semel. She claimed she sent what we agreed upon....the address I was using to contact her no longer works, the last contact I had with her was 11/30/02...I found her on your bad traders board her name is Sheila Semel and I did file a claim with our local post office after she convinced me she really did send...she said she didnt receive MY things either and that she was filing a claim on her end....her email address no longer works but I was told tonight she is now using this addy on the new site us KnKers are usingcalled Up4trade AStormiC@netscape.net ANYTHING you can do to help would be great we are out WF Spangle, Tradee.Princess,PF Spangle and she was to have sent Frankenteddyx2, Woody, 100 Ann. Teddy , October Birthday
IF you do a search online for her phone number using the mailing address
she gave to me you come up with the phone numbers listed for her mailing
address as:
914-337-7020 or 914-337-9588
January 29, 2003
Response filed by: StormiC@netscape.net
I just happened to be browsing through the Trader list and find your comments regarding our trade. Why would I reply or contact you regarding my e mail address change? I checked tracking on all outstanding trades and find all delivered, including yours.
You entered 0300 1290 0004 2644 0102
Your item was delivered at 10:17 am on January 10, 2003 in SOMERSET, KY 42503.
I do not know what your problem is here but your package was shipped and
delivered as promised.It is totally unreal how people have nothing to do
but browse these boards and look to trash someone elses name. You need to
retract your comments. Your item was in fact delivered. Sheila
Peg3393@aol.com
I find this response amusing since I am NOT in Kentucky and she never sent what was supposed to be sent...I never received a confirmation number and she was to file a postal claim for lost mail a few months back....nothing but more EXCUSES to clear her name....<sigh> I sent you copies of all her emails nothing but EXCUSES from her....I checked Ebay for the name She seems to be still active on ebay under handle lovesyorkies - current mail adresses could be AStormiC@netscape.net. She now uses seller name eBay View User Feedback for blessourusa blessourusa and has quite a few beanies up for sale....can Ebay stop her?!?!?!!??
Peggy
February 3, 2003
Update filed by: Sevenbellesagain@cs.com
No, i still haven't received my package. Although she has sent me the
confirmation ticket and it says it was delivered, but still haven't got it.
I asked my mail man about it and the post office and still nothing. So i
have no idea what is going on
March 17, 2003
Complaint filed by: bstamer@web.de
Hi from Germany. My name is Björn - from Wentorf in Germany
- my ebay handle is Lillyundcasi / member since around 2 years. Registered
at Up4trade.com under same handle. I had agreed on a trade with a person
( well known from badtraderlist.com as I found out too late ) called Sheila
Semel from Yonkers NY back in December 2002. After I had send my part
of the trade to her through a friend in Colorado ( to whom I had to sent
a big parcel with christmas gifts - part of this parcel were the 3 beanies
for Sheila Semel which my friend posted out just after christmas ) Sheila
confirmed having received the parcel on 7th of January. From her mail
I learned that the same day she pretended to have posted out my part of the
trade ( 6 normal beanies ) - although it was agreed that she should post
the moment my friend was posting ( but my friend missed to mail her about
having sent my part ). After 2 weeks I had received nothing from Sheila I
mailed her but found that all my mails were coming back to me. Apparently
she had changed her mail adress. After some research I found her tel number
and asked my friend in the US to call her but she replied to her in a very
rude way; finally pretending that she is an attorney in order to scare my
friend. Then I tried to contact her through her current yahoo auctions -
she saw this as she told me later - but she didn't reply to me . I then found
on badtraderlist some other victims of this lady and from them I got her
new mail adress. I wrote her in a friendly way but got a very harsh reply
from her saying that there is no reason to inform me ( while having a trade
going ! ) about a mail adress change; that had posted my parcel but by surface
mail ( which was not agreed ). She blamed me of having not fulfilled our
agreements ( she claimed that I had sent her my parcel too late - which is
not true - from the beginning I told her that I would mail through my friend
in Colorado to save on postage - of course it was during christmas and my
friend was a way for a few days but SHE RECEIVED HER PART OF THE TRADE -
I didn't ) etc. I asked her for a proof that she mailed my parcel but
she was not willing to do any effort to clarify the matter. I gave the parcel
another 4 weeks but up to date ( 10 weeks after she pretended to have sent
the parcel ) nothing arrived. In the meantime other people reported to be
scammed by her, again she changed the mailadress - didn't reply when I warned
her that I fill contact traderlist.com. She seems to be still active on ebay
under handle lovesyorkies - current mail adresses could be AStormiC@netscape.net.
I am quite sure that I will not receive my beanies anymore from this Sheila
but I want to warn with this everybody to do trades with this person. I am
also prepared that this person will reply that all this is not true and will
blame me as she did with the other persons which reported to be scammed by
her. Let me know if you need something more from me - I have saved the complete
correspondence with her in case you need it to verify what I have written.
All the best Björn
April 2003
Update filed by: Peg3393@aol.com
Sheila did finally send my package to me. She states also that she has
still received nothing from me.
May 16, 2005
Message from Mediator, Pat
Today this person posted a false message on Addie's Attic Trading Board
concerning Traderlist. The following is her message:
Just to let you know.....the Traders List and the do gooders Pat and Elf
are a total fraud. That is money making site for them and they claim to have
lawyers on board,. Not so, or at least they will not provide any information
as to contacting their lawyers.
Please read my interview with
www.bobblesandmore.com to find
out more about Traderlist and the volunteers who run it. Incidentally, we
DO have attorneys helping Traderlist, and will be happy to give the information
to other attorneys.
Sincerely,
Pat
Internet Fraud Mediator